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    I am really intimidated by this program. This is not what I expected at all. I am going to have to pay someone to show me how to use it. I live in Minneapolis if anyone is interested that has decent training skills.

    I like the soft esthetic look unlike iGTD. I like the ability to make sub projects and (sort of) sub contexts unlike Entourage.

    I like the idea that it will be more Mac centric than Entourage. I want to use Apple mail and the iPod if possible etc.

    Why did they put so much power in the thing? it's hard to learn and a lot of people are going to have a huge temptation to fiddle too much with the it.

    I just don't get what their objective is. Maybe it will work out for me.

    I might just end up hacking Yojimbo into a GTD system.
    Last edited by loocartlu; 01-05-2008, 01:45 PM. Reason: and instead of ;

  • #2
    omni focus mac gtd style app

    Have you watched the introductory video the creator of KGTD did for omni focus ? Omni focus is designed very well to be both powerful and very simple if needed . You don't have to use every feature that's available .

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    • #3
      Originally posted by loocartlu View Post
      Why did they put so much power in the thing? it's hard to learn and a lot of people are going to have a huge temptation to fiddle too much with the it.

      I might just end up hacking Yojimbo into a GTD system.
      They have to put a lot of power into it 'cause they're charging $80 for it.
      You can dumb it down very easily. Start with contexts and context lists, and branch out to projects gradually.

      I think Omnifocus is a perfectly reasonable solution for people who use one and only one mac (not 2 or more, and not pc's), want to group actions by context and by project, and don't use priorities. But if you don't fit that profile (I don't), then I wouldn't recommend it for you.

      I don't recommend Yojimbo for GTD- too much of a temptation to blend action and reference, and there are other issues. If you just want a nice front-end to iCal that supports gtd, try anxiety (the program, not the mental state ).

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      • #4
        Interesting. I had the exact opposite reaction to Omnifocus. I had downloaded and tried a whole bunch of GTD apps, and Omnifocus was the only one that made any sense to me right off the bat. It was the only one I tried that didn't make me feel like I had to first figure out how the developer's mind worked before being able to use it. I watched the intro video and then just took off. I'd be lost without it now.

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        • #5
          This is all good information. I hope I just got off to a bad start. The reality is I'm not that sharp with computers. Right now I feel like I'm in a funhouse for the first time.

          I don't mind shelling out for a little training and perspective. We shall see what happens.

          What I want is:

          Largely Mac centric
          Cut way down on keyboarding & typing
          Soft, easy on the eyes esthetic
          Sync part or all to an iPod or PDA (that isn't going out of business, changing soon, or is part of a cell phone.)

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          • #6
            OK

            I am calming down now and I am starting to see the light.

            Question:

            Do you guys put your someday maybe under projects or contexts or what?

            I don't want it to clutter up my active next actions.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by loocartlu View Post
              Do you guys put your someday maybe under projects or contexts or what?

              I don't want it to clutter up my active next actions.
              I make my Someday/Maybe items into On-Hold projects. (You can mark projects as Active, Pending, Stalled, or On-Hold using the Inspector.)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by loocartlu View Post
                Do you guys put your someday maybe under projects or contexts or what?

                I don't want it to clutter up my active next actions.
                I have a context called "someday/maybe"... actually I have another called "someday, just not now" too.

                Those contexts can hold both projects, and next actions for projects that are on hold.

                This way I can look at projects (either active or not) and next actions (by context or inactive)

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                • #9
                  Excellent. Thanks.

                  What I had to do was delete all of the preloaded stuff and then by starting from scratch, stuff started showing up in the right places.

                  One thing I noticed is even though omnifocus has a lot of glowinkies, they don't really clash with GTD theory. Personally, I find it irritating to see a priority grading column that can't be removed or something similar in GTD software. It's like the guy didn't even read the book.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mcogilvie View Post
                    They have to put a lot of power into it 'cause they're charging $80 for it.
                    Not much time left, but if you buy before January 8th it's 50% off

                    http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnifocus/

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                    • #11
                      Placing S/M NAs "on hold" in OF

                      Originally posted by dschaffner View Post
                      I have a context called "someday/maybe"... actually I have another called "someday, just not now" too.

                      Those contexts can hold both projects, and next actions for projects that are on hold.

                      This way I can look at projects (either active or not) and next actions (by context or inactive)
                      When I have an active project in OF, but several next actions that are far enough in the future to be S/M, I label them with a context of "future".
                      Then, in Context mode, Future is placed "on hold" (use the option gear at the bottom).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by loocartlu View Post
                        Excellent. Thanks.

                        I find it irritating to see a priority grading column that can't be removed or something similar in GTD software. It's like the guy didn't even read the book.
                        but a lot of those apps don't claim to be a canonical GTD program like Omni Focus does .. and the omni group has resisted a lot of flak from the user base even during the alpha testing to keep priorities out of it . There's work-arounds though if you require priorities ,flagging items is one way , but I use flags for items that require a lot of energy and focus ..I try to do those in the morning or when I'm fresh and filter them out if possible when I'm toast .
                        Just as long as I look at everything often enough to " feel good about what I'm not doing " .

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ext555 View Post
                          the omni group has resisted a lot of flak from the user base even during the alpha testing to keep priorities out of it .
                          I don't even know what to say about the user base regarding this. Unbelievable.

                          Good for Omni for keeping that nonsense out of it.

                          Read the freaking book people. GTD has a different approach to this problem.

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