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  • The iPhone: Usability for GTD / Switching from the Treo

    Like many users of the Treo, I'm considering switching to the iPhone, but I have a few reservations. Following the GTD (Getting Things Done) methodology, I've become used to rapidly creating lists and tasks. I'm concerned that the iPhone, with its touch screen keyboard and inability to cut and paste text, is not well-suited for word processing, business, and productivity applications -- but I'd like to be proved wrong...

    (Full post on The Efficient MD.)

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    Will be interesting to see. I think google docs and google spreadsheets will work on the web browser, right?

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    • #3
      Hey, with Goggle Maps you can have real context lists. Whereever you go .

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      • #4
        No GPS.

        Originally posted by Cpu_Modern View Post
        Hey, with Goggle Maps you can have real context lists. Whereever you go .
        There is no buit-in GPS (Nokia phones are equipped with GPS).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by darlakbrown View Post
          Will be interesting to see. I think google docs and google spreadsheets will work on the web browser, right?
          Sorry to say there are simply too many places where I can't get Internet access.

          Waiting for the subway train is by far the worst example. I get up, get my Starbucks, go to the station and I'm just sitting there. Its a perfect time to pull out the PPC, look at my schedule and start thinking about my day. If all my stuff in online, I'm are dead in the water.

          Maybe some day (pun intended). But not yet.

          Tom S.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cpu_Modern View Post
            Hey, with Goggle Maps you can have real context lists. Whereever you go .
            ooohh.. good point. perhaps that's the future of GTD. it detects where you are based on your GPS location and displays the tasks for the context you are physically in. i like where this is going. no more training yourself to pull up the appropriate context.

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            • #7
              PS I got my iphone last night. Only stood in line for 10 minutes. But am now waiting AT&T activation before I can use it. It could take another 12 hours, they say, but hopefully less.

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              • #8
                Hi Folks,

                As a committed Applist I got one of the first iPhones.

                At the present time it's not the best platform for GTD. There is a notes function, but it's lame. All you can do with a note is store it on your phone or email it to yourself or someone else. There are no other list-keeping utilities and iCal only tracks timed calendar appointments. Tasks without matching appointments do not sync to the phone.

                However, this will change in October when Leopard, the next generation of the operating system, becomes available. The pre-released versions show significantly improved support for Tasks and Notes. At that point the iPhone will be a perfectly fine GTD platform for those of us on Mac computers.

                Don't know what it will be like for Windows users.

                If you are using a web based GTD approach the iPhone will work fine now. If you are not, there are work-arounds for most of the problems. For example, you can keep lists as Email folders or as Contacts, which sync fine. However, if you really want a turnkey GTD platform I'd wait on the iPhone if I were you.

                Scot Giles

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                • #9
                  yes I got my iPhone (writing from it now). I am very happy with it except the
                  missing task sync. I guess I could go web based gtd but that's a transition since I am used to my current list setup. Will have to play on it a bit more. Its a beauty otherwise.

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                  • #10
                    Please keep posting, as a geek and a nerd (my wife do not know the difference and call me both) i am looking forward to hear.

                    I was considering the iPhone and decide at the end to get the Treo 680 (I had a Treo 650)

                    This are my reason:

                    1.- It is a Close Platform, therefore I need that apple release the apps I need
                    2.- There is no task (I know I cannot understand this)
                    3.- There is no Categories for notes (What they were thinking)
                    4.- You can not do FIND (Again What they were thinking)

                    You can make it work, YES, you can go online, YES, but if I have learn anything from David Allen, GTD, and this forum is you do not force the tool to work, you discover the way you work and the tool need to naturally addapt, otherwise, the system will colapse. (has happened to me)

                    But again, please keep posting, I like to read the different ideas people is getting, even maybe the updates... for now, I am really happy with apple and their iphone, since has make me realice how incredible is my Treo, and the Treo 680 it is even better....

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                    • #11
                      Sure. I think all the Applists will be happy to comment on how the iPhone evolves. It's the very first gadget of its kind from Apple and there are sure to be changes. As it's software driven, we will be able to update our phones as things mature.

                      And no two ways about it, the iPhone is beautiful. It's the first cell phone that does not appear to have been designed by the Borg.

                      For now I'm using an easy workaround. In Leopard the Notes function will be part of the Mail program. So, for now I've created a NOTES folder in Mail and keep my lists as unsent emails.

                      If I make a Note on the iPhone, I just email it to myself to get it into the computer and then drag it to the appropropriate Mail folder. If I want to take a list with me in the phone I just email it to myself and pick up the email with the phone.

                      However, it will be nicer when this is more automated and elegant.


                      Scot Giles
                      Last edited by CSGiles; 06-30-2007, 11:08 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Windows users do have more choice.

                        Originally posted by CSGiles View Post
                        Don't know what it will be like for Windows users.
                        Windows users do have more choice. They can already purchase excelent Nokia phones with high speed Internet access, GPS built-in, 5 megapixel camera and reliable synchronization with desktop machine. Or they can buy one of the Windows-based smartphones.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TesTeq View Post
                          Windows users do have more choice. They can already purchase excelent Nokia phones with high speed Internet access, GPS built-in, 5 megapixel camera and reliable synchronization with desktop machine. Or they can buy one of the Windows-based smartphones.
                          Or they can get a Palm, that to this day has been my device of choice for GTD. Out of the box makes an great solution.

                          Best,

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                          • #14
                            Yes, all that is true for Windows users, or for Mac users who wish to forego the iPhone.

                            The problem is you have to forego the iPhone.

                            This new machine is stunningly beautiful, fast and elegant. The user experience is amazing. For now and for me, I'm willing to work around the limitations until the software catches up.

                            I don't just want my life to be efficient. I also want it to be beautiful and stylish.

                            Scot Giles

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                            • #15
                              I agree. Of course there are those options. Some people will continue down that path. The iPhone is one option. However it will change how other phones are designed in the future. IMHO

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